My lunch guest is a long-time friend who I first met back in 1982. John Norris has an amazing story of public service and a deep love for the world of sustainable agriculture and sustainable energy. We talk about all of that plus, family, the Obama White House, campaigns and his work with the State Public Policy Group. You're just a click away from listening in as we go Out to Lunch at Trostel's Dish and talk business and politics and more.
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